- 1st comparison: NUBB a tourney bubble team then NIT is like NUFB winning their division.
- 2nd comparison: NUBB makes the Big Dance like NU like NUFB winning the B1G CC.
- 3rd Comparison: NUBB winning a game in the Dance like NUFB winning a (now) playoff game.
- 4th comparison: NUBB winning 2 or more games in the Dance like NUFB winning a NC.
Just curious what others think here. If you disagree...maybe say why?
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looking at the remaining schedule the Huskers will probably finish the regular season 5-3 and go 1-1 in the B1G tourney giving them an 18 -14 record (56%) , an 11% improvement over last years 15/18 (45%) record and probably a good base line for a typical year?
by contrast the FB 9-4 record (69%) is considered a typical year
I would like to see the BB & FB teams raise next years wins by 10% to consider it a good year
Boom....so we are in agreement on #1 and #2. As for 3 and 4.....ideally I would of liked to say "win a BCS game" and the "win a BCS NC".. However, those don't exist now. Winning a playoff game may seem like lofty expectations. But to say "winning 1 or 2 rounds in the tourney seems an easier task than 1 or both games of FB playoff" is a bit off IMO. And here's why:
NU has NEVER won a game in the Big Dance. Not ever. We are comparing the relative difficulties for a school that has been overwhelmingly dominant in football for 50 years. Basketball at NU was barely relevant for maybe 8-10 years. One conference tourney title. Been to the dance 4 times? Never won a game. Have a consolation "NIT Championship" banner that recognized the 65th best team in America. They are night and day apart.....at least they should be. At least in our lifetimes. Perhaps Miles is changing that here....who knows?
As for your percentages, not sure I understand the cross-sport comparisons and to what we are comparing it to.
Oh, and I forgot. On the "adjusting comparisons" for Miles part? It will take some time before people expect much more than NCAA Tourney births and winning a game or two occasionally (say every 3-5 years). Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see that bar raised. But even if we did say have a couple "sweet 16 showings" or even an Elite 8 type year in small time frame (same 3-5 years)...all it would take is a couple poor years and the bar is back down.
Think Baylor-like or KSU-like or even ISU-like expectations. Be good occasionally. Have a couple off years. Maybe a pattern of a NCAA bubble year, then perhaps a great year as a 3-6 seed, then maybe a 10 seed, miss a year, 8 seed, miss a year, miss another, bubble team, 6 seed, etc.
Trash I guess it depends on if your viewing those accomplishments in general or pertaining to the current state of the programs. Obviously just making the tourney would be a huge step for Husker BB as would winning the CC for FB so comparison 1 & 2 seem within reason however, generally speaking winning 1 or 2 rounds in the tourney seems an easier task than 1 or both games of FB playoff.
the competition will be strong for the FB playoffs and will be tough to get an invite let alone win a game. I imagine BB would be a low seed and have to win a play in game then face a high seed which is difficult but not NC difficult IMHO
if Miles starts having success then we will have to adjust the comparisons because we will expect more